Who must be held responsible for this disaster?

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Dellarovere

I'm writing these lines while my heart bleeds, not only for environment and my country, but also for my secretary and friend who is still missing as she joined her husband in fighting the fire at Styra....
Yesterday evening I saw the Prime Minister in the TV looking frustrated of the catastrophe in course. I was about to sympathize with him, but at once this feeling turned out to be real and immense anger:
Isn't he the one to be held responsible for having chosen this bunch of impotent idiots to handle our today and future?
Isn't he the one who instead of sending Polydoras or Basiakos to plant onions, kept them in their positions and gave them cover?
Isn't he the one who never recovered the criminal mistakes of the former governments, as the banishment of the forest guards corps?
Isn't he the one to have been just watching Fourlas and Kois quarreling and avoiding speaking to each other as if they handled the case of their grandfather's barn?
Isn't he the one to have tollerated Magistrates like the ones of Messinia and Helia, and their "competent" stuff that ignored the existance of 300 volunteer rescuers ready to intervene when asked to?
Isn't he the one who did not provide for 3,5 years that this country gets at last a formal forest registry?
My anger is equal with the sorrow for the human lives, the forests and habitats, and the millions of animals loss.
I hope that some arsonists will be caught and brought to justice.
But with, or without them, the "competent" ministers, of the present and the former governments, along with the prime ministers of the past 25 years must be brought before Justice for violation of almost half the articles of Penal Law and TREASON against this country.....

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After Parnitha fire, the Prime minister stated, that 'not a single square cm of the forest would be given as a plot of land for development'. Good statement.
The next day, the same government gave 64 acres of land to Casino of Parnitha for extension of premises. Forgotten only after 24 hours?

This time we have dead people: children burned alive, priests, firemen, policemen, old people not leaving their homes..........

Strofilia forest, villages of Artemida, Makistos, Kouveles, Nea Styra, Lada, Karveli, Xyrochori, Paleochori, Amaliada, Dafnoula, Krestena, Smyrna, Smyrnochori, Zacharo...the list is huge...will be wiped from the map of Greece.

Anathema se ekeinous pou na plousiepsun apo tous nekrous !!!!!!!!!!!!!

..Tolia..

Its like a nightmare!

unbelievable!
we couldnt do anything, state was paralyzied, as people were being burned

Anathema stous axristous pou kyvernane tin xora!

glljansen

Our heart is bleeding for Greece and its people.
Our prayers are with victims and their families.
Our respect is with your firemen & rescue-services.
Having spend over 8 weeks throughout the Peloponnese last 14 months, we are back on September 15th as we had planned to drive from Athens to Kalamata and visit the south western part we have not yet seen.
It will not be a happy holiday seeing so much destruction, and I am sure we will cry seeing what the fires have left; but we do come because we love Greece and its people.
I do not mangle in the political discusions , as we are not Greek, but we do understand your angre and frustration.

The Broken Gentleman

PUNISH THOSE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE.. SHOW NO QUARTER....

Their pathetic lives is not enough to pay for those who have died.

Leonarda

For me the respnsible first of all is the state...Which doesnt have guardians...At least in Rhodes, i have seen, but this is not everywhere...
Then, the organised plan as Christina said,and we can not always blame the greeks...
Of course, the position of the governments all of them who have passed from our country, and certainly the actual position of the political parties who are fighting for the votes on the dead people and the dead earth and animals...
One other reason?the lack of consciousness of the human being, but here we are talking about an organised plan, not of individual cases

Totally Blunt

I am very sorry for your country and for the lost lives.

I can't say anything about your country, not having the information and such, but let me tell you this much. A short while ago our new elected government announced a plan to sell "land that has lost forest character" to the public. And a few days after that, fires erupted in touristic places where land is scarce and expensive.

Isn't it obvious who is to blame? The government with such a short sight and the short sighted public who as voted for this short sighted government. Too bad money rules the day, not environmental awareness.

NONAME

The main problem in our country is that no one is ever held responsible. Have you seen any minister resign? All of our politicians are crooked (all 300 of them ) but its our fault too that we run to vote for those bastards. Why cant anything work well in our country? If we dont wake up as a nation, we are done.

My heart is heavy over the lost of lives in Greece.I am in the USA, but read everything I can about Greece, as I have an online friend in Athens. May God take care of each of you. I will keep Greece in my prayers.

cpinatsi

It is all a matter of priorities to the politicians. If the forests were a priority, we wouldn't be mourning human lives now. If instead of spending millions on F16 to play "top gun" with our neighbours (as though we would ever really go to war with them!), we had bought fire extinguishing planes that watered the forests as a precaution, if the entire army had been patrolling the forests instead of guarding useless camps which were supposed to close down but remained because of specific interests, if the Olympic games anti-terrorist systems had been put to use to catch arsonists, instead of watching ladies undress in their bedrooms (and this is a fact), if all the previous burnt forests had not become expensive villas, if the recent laws had not de-characterised so many areas from forests, if if if...
And now watch: this biblical ecologic disaster should be reason enough to stop the hunting season. Enough animals have died already, but instead of protecting the few that have survived, you will see that the hunting will go on. This alone proves that even after these fires no one has any intention of protecting nature, they just shed crocodile tears.

As to who put the fires, it is obvious now that this is a well organised plan. This is not a shepherd burning a small field to feed his goats next year, nor even building contractors looking to build on top of Taygetos. It is not even the work of a pervert who puts a fire in his area to laugh. This is an organised crime, it is a terrorist action if it comes from within or a war action if it comes from abroad. This is why I believe it is high-treason to let this happen.

As for what Savvas said, he is absolutely right: I also heard that a building corporation of the military (oikodomikos synetairismos) demanded to be excepted from the "anadasotea" (to-be-replanted) area on Parnitha...

reifguy

the responsibility is upon who r in power ,,the arsenists if the laws punished them very severely ,,they wouldnt dare to do it again,,also the level of awareness ,facilities ,,fire extingusih trucks ,equipment ,,liquids ,,trained personnel ,,experts ,,,its a long list ,,,if such facilities r available ,,even when arsenists start their crime and fires,,they can be detected and faced in an early state ,,the signs have been waving since a time in greece,,,but the response of officials has been blunt/...i can only say words of condolence and criticism ,,,but my heart sanked when i knew the death ,,a woman with her 4 children burned a live,,so many ,,and some died of unforgiveable mistakes ,,like teh fire truck crash ,,,its time for more alert ,,more criticism and above all ,severely punishing and capturing the arsenists and who is behind the sabotage ,,i think we r speaking more of organized crime now ,not sporadic individual fires ,,,deep condolences to all who died and let them rest in peace

MISTER JUSTICE

The responsible for these fires must not only be jailed, they even must be sentenced to death.

Fire burning is a crime,and the criminals must be severely punished.

slaveof12gods

we must stand up for those who have been victimized by these MALAKES and they need to set an example to future terrorists ,what will happen when you kill!

Zoi ((Î–Ï‰Î®))

Do you really think that someone wants to sell the burned land or make hotels etc?
And he wants to do this in the hole forestal area of Peloponnisos and also in Evoia, in Ioannina?
I have gone to Mani and toured the hole Peloponnisos, most of the burned villages are really pure and have NOTHING TO OFFER AS TOURISTIC PLACES.
So it is highly impossible that people like that are responsible for this, they couldn't organize such a...burning!
After 2 canadair took off from Xanthi (where I live) to Peloponnisos for helping, 2 FIRES in Mandra and Potamia, two small and untouristic villages near Xanthi, STARTED BURNING...
I don't know, I am just reporting this.

Ipek K

The responsible ones are:

1- arsonists for whatever purpose they have

2-Governments who prefer to turn their heads to the other side for their own benefits

3- People who are incapable of using their power but currently in power.

I am writing my general opinions since I am not Greek but as a Turk, we have the same situation here also.

In my opinion, whoever is responsible to those fires must be tried and judged with death penalty because I can not think of any other worse crime for someone to be considered a betrayer to his country.

Let me express my deepest sorrow again for all the lives lost, I hope they rest in peace and wish the families patience to bear the sorrow.

I am also very sad about the threes and the animals also. You have a beautiful country and it is so sad to witness as your neighbor to see the greenery to go into ashes.

Note To DELLAROVERE: Angelo, please give us at least one good news when you hear- hopefully- the well being of your friends.

anlarm

I was away from computer all day and I only heard of the fires at 7.30pm on TV. Similar things happening in Turkey as well. I certainly think some terrorists are doing this greatest crime agains humanity. But the governments are to blame too for not taking precautions.
I was shocked to hear that Greek PM did not ask the army for help, fearing that it would mean 'those incapable civilians'!!! What a stupid way of thinking. The country is being burnt and he is thinking of the elections.
My heart bleeds with the people of Greece and Turkey. As someone who experienced a great forest fire in Cyprus I sympathize with you my friends. I just hope and pray these are the last. My sympathies also for the families of those people who died in the fires.

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