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Why did AKP won the elections,taking almost half of the votes? |
What were the motives?The other parties did wrong?
Of course all the TVs,papers talking about this but i'd like to know your ideas.
PS. For the people who will type "people are stupid" and etc things please don't bother,i'd like to see serious comments. Additional Details #Talat; i don't agree that people don't want to discuss politics here. They only don't want to see provoking questions and insults. |
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anlarm
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I will comment as an outsider, since I am a Cypriot and I don't vote in Turkey.
People of Turkey are not as uneducated as they used to be 40 years ago (I was in Ankara in 67). Obviously they did not want a coalition, and CHP just could not provide an alternative. Do you know anything about CHP's program? Did Baykal manage to explain people what his party would do different (and better) than AKP if they had won? My answer is no. All he did was criticise. People I guess saw that there has been some sort of economic development and stability during the last few years. RTE seems (seems) to be moving away from religious fundamentalism and embracing all centre in the political arena. People see him as successful and on the right path. Otherwise how can you explain an increase of 12%? GNP and GNIPC are going up. Despite the privatization of some banks and state companies like TT, a lot of people are content with the economic developments. They don't want fights anymore.
One last word, I wouldn't vote for AKP or CHP personally. RTE still has to convince me that he has no hidden Islamic agenda. As for MHP, I have quite the opposite ideology with them. But I guess people saw AKP as the best choice of all. |
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HOTTürk
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Education. |
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democracy. what else i can say i don't like the result i would even prefer MHP than AKP. but that's peoples choose |
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Totally Blunt
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For decades, Adnan Menderes and his followers drilled into Anatolia that CHP is atheist and they are religious. Now, Anatolia can't shake the inbred belief and vote for CHP. MHP isn't mild enough for these guys. Lacking abother rightist party, they had to contend with AKP.
Why shouldn't I call AKP voters stupid? It wouldn't occur to them to ask, "I am working 12 hours a day, why do I still need handouts?" or say, "AKP had promised to decrease unemployment and didn't deliver!" Instead they say, "I will vote for AKP because they gave me 2 months worth of chickpeas." It wouldn't occur to them to ask why they donot have a decent school and decent teachers in their village. Instead they will enter discussions about headscarves in universities. Their daughters, with that low quality in education, willnot be going to university anyway! Why bother?
No no, I am seriously saying that poor AKP voters are stupid. As for the rich ones, they can only be called opportunist, i.e. too clever for their own good.
Edit: Anlarm, as a person, who was FORCED to follow all campaigns for three whole weeks (my parents are very political people), I have to say that , if you listened, Baykal's rhetoric was very smart, down to earth and embracing. I hadn't expected this of him. Maybe our problem, as a people, is REFUSE to listen, and credit "charisma" instead of words. Look where RTE's charisma lead us. |
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Darth Vader
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Free coal+free food+religion+hate for Ahmet Necdet Sezer+uneducated people+...... = the triumph of akp |
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hello
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bosphorus turkey agreed |
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mertev
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Against long odds Tayyip played a connective role on the central right.
I remember the ''age of Ozal'' 21 years ago.Whatever they're saying for and against Tayyip were said for and against Ozal by that time.Ozal was unlucky because Demirel ( real headache of Turkey ) was on the opposition side. Tayyips luck is Baykal. His repulsive look and uncompromising attitude simply paved the way of AKP.
For my own opinion,the results are good for our country.It seems there is another 5 years without coalitions which means without any moronic controversies. |
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all the parties kept on blaming each other
chp blamed akp, mhp blamed akp (even though i really like the "al ip as" comment and then he throws the rope... :) )
akp blamed chp and so on...
they didn't tell anything about their plans, what they would do if they won the elections. when other parties were busy with blaming, akp raised the nut prices in black sea, they united themselves, and did many other things that i don't want to mention
dsp and chp were united but i think instead of chp, akp got dsp's votes
people were brainwashed; our people are not educated enough so it is very easy to convince them into something and then they will believe it for the rest of their lives.
they bought coal, food, clothes one week before the election. we cannot know what this means for those people (probably they felt themselves obligated to vote)
then of course propaganda, you can see erdogan everyday in TV, at least 4 times
he talks, talks and talks... and poor people believe in
last but not least they used our limited amuont of water as election propaganda. after the elections we won't have enough water anymore... |
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Firstly, I can describe the AK Party victory as having very little to do with the discontinued presidential contest or with the "nation in peril" choice between secularism and politicized Islam but it was a very well-run and well-funded political campaign that secured the win. Municipal contracts and private foundations with party links helps immensely as well. The clincher apart from better organization was that there was not a single household spared by visitations from party canvassers. The government apparently "for the election's benefit" was addressing the needs of individual families, made special provision for the handicapped, and hands down has won them the support of millions of households.
The AK Party political machine was very different from the opposition as they listened and took to the concerns of the citizens seriously. In contrast with the opposition, who resorted to fear tactics such as the threat of Islamism and the need to invade Iraq.
From my analysis, the opposition's attempt to turn the recent election into an issue of a nation's identity, wasn't bought hook, line and sinker. The turnout has showed that it is not apprehensive that Turkey is drifting uncontrolled to a more Islamic form of government. It was simply economics versus paranoia. A choice between an unknown future versus a stable government that has done a satisfactory job, coupled with improvements like the liberal deregulation of the Turkish economy.
I felt that the calibre of the opposition was its weakness. The results would have been different if there had been a real and viable alternative, or a real social democratic party. Plus, I think the populace saw through the "overkill" made by the 'secularists' and their unabashed piggyback ride on Ataturk and military action. For me, an outsider, it appeared to be a "spin" of class politics under the guise of upholding secular & civilized values. Their use of Ataturk and his images made things worse for them and in my opinion was playing on the people's loyalty to Ataturk rather than focus on their platforms for change.
Lastly, AK's greatest asset is the prime minister himself, Tayyip ErdoÄŸan who apparently understand how the populace is going to vote, but also has a vision of what the nation wants," In reality everything boils down to the voter's mindset which is often flexible and not anchored to religion or class. |
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incapable education..my ignorant people..for sale media..liar west countries..soros..fetullah gulen..jews...george bush..eu... |
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Qu'est ce que tu pense?
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I think AK parti did a good job with their campaigning. I live in Antalya, and for the past few weeks there were many political vans that went around the neighborhood (most were Ak). Ak parti also had political boats that went across the coast of Antalya playing many songs and political chants, etc. I even checked the US news, and they had a news story of how Erdogan was even using robots in Istanbul to help with his political campaign. The video is the one called, "Robot on the Campaign Trail":
http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=turkey&c=av
But for me, I wouldn't vote on a party based on campaign strategies, I would vote based on honesty. If they're making too many promises, I know that they will never do them. Example, Demokratic Parti and how they made so many promises to Antalya...I don't think they would accomplish any of them. I think that when it comes to politics, honesty is very hard to find in a candidate. That's what makes it so hard to vote. |
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1)AKP has well developed organizations in every regions.The organization has very powerful organic bonds with the masses.
2)Some politics of main opposition party were wrong.For example,not letting the USA use Turkish territory has been causing very serious problems to Turkey like the rise of the terrorism.
They told the same thing about the Lebanon conflict and as everybody can see,there is nothing occurred as they claimed.
3)As some of you have already mentioned,the economy of the country is incomparable with the past situation which was nothing but a big crisis.
**I do not agree with the education part since claiming 46.7 of the voters are uneducated is out of reality,especially the claim about only the voters of one party.
4)Opposition parties either did not or could not declare a clear and satisfactory manifestation.
5)Election programs were based on wrong bases.
so on....
PS I am not supporter of any parties so I am neutral. |
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The alternatives did not have anything to offer other than being more politically correct. No projects or plans.
+ AKP is now seen the heirs of democrat party's legacy, which has always been the majority in turkey. |
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kulla
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Capitalism won the election... |
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Ms.Lady
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I ddint use my vote....because I couldnt see anybody for whom I can vote!!! |
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Rampage
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Cause Bush said so..!! |
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DX
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Ataturk was the best |
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