Do you think I'm being silly here?

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Tid

Dunno. My siblings and I were born in Croydon, London, but we moved back when I was one (long time ago!). I have an Irish passport, but English birth cert, and I have never ever been considered a 'foreigner'. Only hassle I ever had was trying to locate my birth cert, but I've grown up here, went to school, college, and I've never had an English accent etc, so I'm just as Irish as anyone. I, along with many other of my generation were born in England, as the work was there at the time, and once Ireland began to boom, most of us moved home to our roots. Don't think it makes one difference where your born, or where your birth cert came from.

King Of Dorksville

I understand where you are coming from if you (like me) have been reading the opinions of a number of individuals on this forum who, on sight of anyone who was not born in Ireland, daring to claim Irish citizenship, they systematically rip them to shreds.

You and your husband are both Irish, therefore your child is entitled to Irish citizenship, that should be enough. I think it might be a lot of stress you don't need during pregnancy to have to come all the way back here, just for a bit of paper to state that your child is Irish.

Christine

Are you being crazy because you want to move home or your think your child will be a foreigner? I don't think your child would be considered foreign at all. England is hardly foreign, even though I know some attitudes are very different to ours

Things are not the best at home at the minute, 71% rise in unemployment in one year, government finding loads of ways to tax us. ARGGGHH

Work out your contracts, then at least when you come home the houses will be cheaper

Soul Jacker

I have to agree with your husband. A birth Cert does not tell you what your nationality is.

Your 2nd child will be Irish by the fact that you and your husband are Irish It doesn't matter if he/she's born on the moon nothing changes that.

Also you have to consider the travel implications. Do you really want to fly or get the ferry in the latter stages of your pregnancy? Or be a a hospital which is so far from your current home with a new born baby?

Also I have to say as a n.Irish person living in the UK I'd have a hell of a lot more confidence in the NHS compared to the HSE.

froggequene

If you want to move home to give birth & you feel it's right for you then you should.

My cousin deliberately moved home when she was expecting her first to secure her child's right to Irish citizenship, I would do the same myself but my position is different to yours, I wasn't born in the Republic & although any child I give birth to is entitled to Irish citizenship but I would rather secure it by giving birth at home.

I do understand where you're coming from, I don't know if Christine & bite hard have seen the debates about nationality & what criteria determines whether or not someone is Irish but there are quite a few people on here with a very narrow view of what it means to be Irish and quite a few who possess the fervent belief that only birth in the Republic can make you Irish.

Edit: Kris, I wasn't intending to offend anyone, the issue of ethnicity, nationality & citizenship and the relationship between the 3 is a complex one and having bumped into it in some very interesting situations, I find the simplistic notions some people have baffling. At the end of the day, what determines the passport a person holds is the law & given that Irish nationality law has undergone a significant change recently, my cousin didn't want her child to be at the wrong end of another change in the law if he was born outside the Republic and that would be my anxiety as well - if they dropped the Granny rule, it wouldn't just be the Irish soccer team who were f*cked.

Kris......

I see where you are coming from, but like a few of the others have said, but I also do not consider the UK as foreign.

Edit--- Froggequene, As my parents were stationed in Germany, whilst my Father served in the Royal Air force, and I was born there, it hardly makes me German, I was only there for six months!, lived in the UK for most of my life but have always held an Irish passport.

The Nine Lives of Laura Gonzales

I think you're going a little overboard. I know a girl who was born in England who's the most Irish person you'll ever meet. Irish was her first language as a kid, even. And your child will grow up with an Irish accent and will be entitled to an Irish passport, so, personally I would find it a little pointless. I honestly don't think anyone would consider them foreign.

some-yank

Not at all. I would do the same under the circumstances.

dugs

no you are spot on

when the sun goes down

yes you are

Kate Love's LFC.

No. You want you child to be fully irish. good for you..;)

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