sugarpupple
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(New Ireland Federation) oh my God!!! what a load of tripe. Why not just call it "Ireland" that's what it is, and the flag already represents the whole country by the blending of the green and orange.
As for being part of the commonwealth, why, oh why should they bother. Ireland have nothing to gain by being part of the commonwealth. |
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Soul Jacker
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I'd imagine at the minute if there was a referendum it would come back with a definitive no from both sides of the boarder.
People in the South (in my experience) for the most part consider nordies different, not in a bad way mind but still different.
The reality is that the North costs a huge amount of money to run and the majority of people there do not want to be part of the republic.
NI has been for want of a better word an economic basket case for years. Now in fairness the troubles destroyed business here for years and there was huge underinvestment for years. Before we talk about whether NI should be British or Irish we need to sort ourselves out, pull together within NI and prove we can be viable and contribute to whoever will have us.
At the minute I'm very happy with things how they are. The British and Irish governments have never been closer in their thinking about all things N.Irish and there is for want of a better word, joint stewardship thanks to dual nationality and the North south bodies. Anyone who thinks NI is solely british are very much in denial.
Equally anyone who thinks the solution to NI's problems lies in a united Ireland need to take their rose tinted glasses off, in the same way that anyone who thinks remaining in the Union indefinitely will solve anything either. These are not the only options, it's not black & white.
To answer the second part of your question the loyalists and unionists would remain loyalists and unionists if there was a united Ireland.
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@John O: I agree Sinn Fein are good at pretending to be politicians. Also I'd love to see you provide a source to back up your claim that people from a catholic background will outnumber people from a protestant background in 5 years. personally I think you may be out by 30-40 years and that's only if the very slight trends continue.
Also I'm from a catholic (more importantly nationalist) background, live over 18 and I've never voted for the shinners in my life, the greens get my first vote. It's not as simple as you think. |
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Orla C
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I don't know if the Republic of Ireland wants to reunite with Northern Ireland - remember that there are 4 million plus people living there, and many of them don't care either way, quite honestly.
Nothing would happen to Loyalists if Ireland was reunited. They are part of the social fabric of the country and as such should not be oppressed in any way - and I would hope that as minority they do not receive the same treatment that they doled out to the Catholic community when that was a minority in their territory. I certainly would not support that kind of thing.
Please remember that there have been Protestants living in the Republic for as long as there have been Protestants in Ireland, and very few of us in the Repubic care either way. Your religion is a private matter, and equating it with your politics hasn't helped issues in the past, and a secular Ireland is the way to go into the future. |
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Flying mop dog
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I don't. We can't afford the north. Oh and to all those talking about the "prods", piss off. I'm Protestant and in no way am I a loyalist. |
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Misty Blue
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Ireland is the whole island of Ireland.We're not just going to let down our six counties people and abandon them.We want our country back in it's entirety
The unionists would find that we would want them to feel at home and would treat them as our fellow Irishmen.
Annie:we do want you,always have and we will get you back in time. |
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Crazygirl
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Use the yahoo answers search engine and you will get loads of opinions
Do people not use seach engines anymore?
Questions like this are asked all the time around here.
Good luck |
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Annie C
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Sadly, I don't think they do want us. If it did happen though, the loyalists would probably cry their wee eyes out, or go back to the mothership, who knows?
EDIT: Thanks Misty Blue! I'm glad to hear it. See you in the Freestate sooner or later! :) |
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mr magic
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sein fein are good at what they do , they have a long term plan. in 5 years the majority of people over 18 in the north will be catholic thats what the register says.u no what that means. no more prod rule. |
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Tid
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this question has been asked in many different formats, and each answer is once both sides agree, it will unite, until then, nothing is happening. |
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Mo Fayed
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No. The Irish Republic was created to avoid the sort of civil war which would result from an all-Ireland union under Dublin. It then had a civil war of its own, and has no wish to repeat the experience on a grander scale.
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The current cease-fire was forced on the IRA after the Dublin politicians were made aware of the full extent of UVF plans for the South. In the previous 'no warning' bomb attacks in Dublin, the Irish hospitals ran out of blood supplies... |
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AobhrÃl (Suburban Fairy)
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I agree with Misty Blue 100% |
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Ant7
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Yes we do it wil happen eventually!united ireland wil happen! |
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BrianO
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NO WE DON'T, especially in the light of recent events and the fact that we can't afford it. The comments of people like MistyBlue reflect the opinions of a small minority of Irish people. Most people here couldn't care less right now in any case.
Northern Ireland is the UK's problem, not Ireland's. We have enough to deal with. |
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boofuswoolie
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Seems UK is stuck with the orange spongers |
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DEREK W
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Yes they do and i suppose always will do but as long as the majority of the Northern Irish people want to stay British it will never happen. |
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Aisling xx
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Realistically I don't see it happen any time soon, too many diifferences, too much bloodshed and to be honest i'm not pushed about having them back. |
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david d
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Yes. It's inevitable that Ireland wil reunite as an all-island Republic, ruled from Dublin.
The 'Irish Free State' did this for a short while.
The loyalists are getting educated as to what it is to be Irish, and don't seem to object like they used to years ago.
The Republic CAN afford the 6 counties, as they would be a source of revenue for the whole country, no more expensive security to maintain. |
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timothy t
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If the "loyalists" knew what was good for them, they would want to be part of the Republic of Ireland. But they don't. Too bad :( |
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Dan N
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The answer is Yes, we want our Northern brothers alongside us.
If they want to march in their Orange bands in a united Ireland, they will be more than welcome to it.
Its a difficult scenario, you have to understand that some unionists do not feel Irish understandably, but this will change
It is quite likely that Scotland is going to gain independance in 2010, this will cause the breakup of the UK.
England is already 5 trillion in debt and nearly bankrupt anyway, the IMF need to be called in.
The Welsh are 50/50 about independance but they already have devolution.
The big difference between now and the old days is the EU.
In the old days, it didn't make economic sense to stand alone.
Now we don't need to stand alone because we stand together within the EU, but we have autonomy over ourselves, not just the English in Westminister.
When Scotland becomes independant, the English will no longer want to pay the £4 billion subvention to Northern Ireland.
But it won't be 'ruled' in the way people think.
First, the Republic is going to be ended, as will Northern Ireland.
Then, a new Ireland state will be born at midnight
A new flag, new anthem, shared languages, shared religions etc.
Its going to be ruled in the same way as Switzerland - same political system - a federation of cantons.
The federal house will sit in Dublin, but the North will retain Stormont and make its own laws.
You need to study the Swiss system to see why it has been so successful for 900 years.
The entire political landscape is going to change when we bring parties like DUP into the Irish Federal State.
The DUP are very pragmatic and will ensure that the incompetence of parties like Fianna Fail will not go unanswered.
The Northern Irish will be able to avail of the Free Universities and Free Education in the New Ireland Federation(NIF).
Lastly, according to the terms of the Good Friday Agreement and the 19th constitutional amendment, the process can and will only happen via democratic means.
The GFA explicitly states that NI cannot stand alone, i.e. it must remain part of a UK (which will be disintegrated in 20 years) or must merge with Ireland in the creation of a New Irish Federation.
Some of the unionist community will inevitably want to return to the England but this will be a very, very small minority.
Most will be very happy will the Swiss style cantons giving them autonomy and meaning they will not have to learn Gaelic, will have different judicial systems and will have full control over themselves in a manner which they do not have now.
Issues that are on the table is the formation of a new Celtic league between Ireland, Scotland and Wales
Also talks of rejoining the British Commonwealth for the benefit of the Orange Irish (this doesn't hurt the Green Irish in anyway, in fact it would be beneficial for us economically!)
The name of the game is compromise and both communities need to learn to accept and respect their neighbours as they are now learning to do
The Troubles are gone now and they won't be back.
The PSNI is now a strong Northern Irish Police force.
After a decade of peace and prosperity, nobody wants the old hell back.
We have a bright and exciting future ahead of us as a New Ireland Federation :) |
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Celtic lord
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Yes we do |
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The Library Of Codex
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Probably not. Eire couldn't afford to run Northern Ireland, and the Protestant population would never support such a union. Which means, unfortunately, that the UK is stuck with Northern Ireland forever. It's like a case of herpes that you just can't shake off. |
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Alan M
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Yes they do but under British rule. Otherwise the loyalists would simply devastate most of Republic and the southerners would hastily revote against unification. A referendum last July showed 37% in favor of a united Ireland with 42% in favor of a united Ireland being British ( Irish News 24th july.) |
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man with big dick
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They will never get it anyway. Rule Britannia! |
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