During the Troubles in Northern Ireland, did the British Government every attack or consider attacking...?

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sugarpupple

Chris you have me confused. At first you vociferously insist they didnâ€™t and wouldnâ€™t even consider it.

â€œNo they didn't and no they did not even ever consider it.â€

Then you go on to say

â€œHowever, it is clear now that the British Gov. supported Unionist Terrorists both directly and non-directly, and they did attack targets in the Rep. of Ireland. So the British Gov. did support an organisation that did carry out attacks in the Republic.â€

Your latter response was almost correct.
It came out in confidential reports a few years back that the British government did in fact support and carry out bombing attacks in Dublin and other areas of Ireland. The attacks were carried out by the SAS. They did break the agreement, as they have done many times.
But would they take responsibility for their actions, not in a heartbeat, because the British government is cowardly, deceitful and untrustworthy. Not the British people themselves just their government.

Orla C

No, not the government, but the extremist Unionist crowd in Northern Ireland did do some bombing in Dublin.

Emily

I am English and I am ashamed that the actions of my country has lead to people in countries all over the world to live in conflict. It is not just Northern ireland that is divided. We are responsible for a lot of the problems through the centuries whether we like it or not. Our ancestors have left us with many countries hating us. I hate traveling to other countries and admitting that i am English. We should try our best to give back to other countries what our ancestors stole and killed for and maybe then we would not be hated.
As for the someone person that said they studied history. I find it very hard to believe that you studied Northern ireland history objectively. If you had you would never have answered the question the way you have. Its people like you that give the British a bad name.

dugs

yes they did,it is well known that they often came across the border,and the UVF bombed dublin some of the bombers were found in firhouse south co dublin

Sean

In addition to that feckin Chris Brown supporter's post (there was a smiley face in here but apparently you ignored it) :

Factions of the British Army and the British Special Forces did attack Irish civilians.

Chirs:
Croke Park, Hill 16. Although this was 1920, it was the murder of Irish civilians by the British Army.
Bloody Sunday, Derry - May not be the Republic but it doesn't make it right. It's still murder of nationalist Irish civilians.

See man, I know the truth and therefore I don't have to resort to namecallin.

Bill, you asked what would happen if Britain attacked ROI? They'd just deny it. The typical answer, as is demonstrated. They deny it, and therefore their citizens are taught lies.

greebo

Yes they did consider and SAS forces did at times cross into the Republic

Soul Jacker

To answer your question no.

Someone91 if you took off your blinkers and stopped to research this in any way properly you'd realised how completely wrong you are. I doubt you've ever set foot in the Republic.

1. Huge Orde (if you don't know who he is which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest google him) has said there has never been closer cooperation between Gardi and the Police in the North as there is now.

2. Huge Orde went on to say the lives of over 40 PSNI officers (involved in dissident attacks over this last year) were saved in no small part by intelligence provided by the Republic.

3. The leader of the RIRA is in prison in the Republic

4. The vast majority of people in the south vote for parties who dislike the Provo's so much that they would be unwilling to form a coalition government with Sinn Fein.

Don't think because you've carried out (an obviously hugely flawed) report in the North in School it means you know anything.

So why don't you back up your bigoted posts with something substantial or continue to live in ignorance.

I live in NI come from a Catholic background and despise the Provo's so wise yourself up.

Chris Brown is the man!

No they didn't and no they did not even ever consider it. Why would they, what would be the purpose.? Technically N.Ireland was to to Westminster part of the UK and had absolutely nothing to do with the Rep. of Ireland, it was a domestic issue for them.

If they had done so, it would have led to a war with Ireland. Which would have led to Britain hammering Ireland. Which would have brought huge international pressure and possibly war from other countries. If that had happened who is to say that the America would not have supported Ireland, which would lead to WWIII. If britain had done so it could have sparked not just a war with Ireland and Britain but probably an even grwatr international conflict.

However, it is clear now that the British Gov. supported Unionist Terrorists both directly and non-directly, and they did attack targets in the Rep. of Ireland. So the British Gov. did support an organisation that did carry out attacks in the Republic.

In response to that idiot Sean. READ THE ******* QUESTION NEXT TIME R-TARD! no they did not! name one instance where the british army or even a faction of the british army carried out an attack in the Republic. name one! you sir are the fecking idiot! if they had it would have broken the anglo-irish agreement traety of '22.

greenorlagh

No they didn't BUT the Republic was considering massing troops along the border at one point.1969 I believe it was.

Why would the Brits attack the Republic anyway?

Alan M

Never. Not necessary as the republic tried to find the IRA murderers themselves.

someone91

The UK had no jurisdiction in ireland, so we had no power to stop the IRA there. We'd fight hard to defeat them here in the UK, but in vain as they'd just cross the border again, and the Irish government supported the terrorists so they made no effort to halt them.

The border is long, winding, and too long and in the middle of no-where to guard 24/7

Attacking Ireland would simply give the IRA a real reason for their cause.
It was a lose-lose situation.
The Irish gov could have halted the troubles immediately,
but they made their choice.
and may they burn in their Catholic Hell along with every Pope that there ever was because of it.

- IN RESPONSE -
Firstly - I was in the Republic just last month, my grandmother is from Co Galway, so shush on that one

Secondly - My Grandfather is of a Catholic Northern irish background, so if anything I would be biased against the British.

I'm not denying that the UVF and other Loyalist Paramilitaries did terrible unforgivable things.
But no one can deny the fact that the IRA were supported by most people in the ROI, and subsiquently funded by the ROI, and until 1999 the ROI claimed jurisdiction over Northern Ireland!
If the Gardai or however you spell the Police down there (even though everyone calls it 'Police' but I won't go into how ridiculous it is that people artificially have Gaelic shoved down their throats when the language is clearly as good as dead) and the ROI government had co-operated with the British authorities, 3500+ lives could have been saved. Almost ALL the arms and equipment used by the IRA was smuggled up from Ireland,
so I really don't see how the hell you can deny the fact that Ireland actively supported & permitted the IRA's actions.
But of course you're biased- you're Irish.
In Eason bookstore the official map of europe they were selling didn't show Northern Ireland
So much for relinquishing the claim, GFA only applies to some not others does it?

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