People say United Kingdom and Northern Ireland... read below?

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martina_ie

That all depends on who you ask. The fact is that 'Northern Ireland' is 6 counties of Ireland which are still occupied by the British. The other 26 of our counties were reclaimed in 1922, however the British had ensured that the 6 Northern counties (being the best and most fertile land in the country) were inhabited by a majority of British people who would be loyal to the crown and resist reunification with the 26 counties. They did this in 1706 by what is known as the 'Ulster plantation', when they sent British people (mostly Scottish Protestants) to the 6 counties to settle. That is why the 6 counties are still separate from the other 26, because 2 thirds of their population consider themselves British (which they are, genetically and culturally) and, because they form the majority of the population of those 6 counties, their wishes continue to be met.

So, to get back to your question, the fact of the matter is that Ireland is Ireland, nothing else. Britain is Britain. Two separate islands, two separate countries. But ask 2 thirds of the population of the six counties and they will state that they are from the UK and that they are British. The other third (being the true Indigenous population) will state that they are from Ireland and Irish.

established1922

Ulster is british soil????stop talking thrash.Ireland is one whole country consisting of 32 counties....unfortunatly 6 of these are occupied by a foreign nation who are only wanted here by the small minority of loyalists (who shouldnt have an opinion anyway because its not their country) Ireland will be free again...........tiocfaidh ar la.
Support a united Ireland.
Eire 32

suek

the people telling u that ulster is part off ireland havent a clue, irelands made up of 4 provinces- leinster, munster, connact and ulster, not all the counties in ulster are in northern ireland, e.g. monaghan, donegal

LadyWB

No, I think what you mean to say is that people say "the United Kingdom and Ireland."

The United Kingdom is made up of four provinces: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. This is because Ireland in the 1920's gain back their independent from the United Kingdom and are a country in their own right.
Northern Ireland is a state that belongs to the United Kingdom because it's government is tied in with the government that is based in London.
Northern Ireland is not a part of Ireland, but a part of the United Kingdom. However is not a part of Britain. Britain is a state that is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.
This all is tied in with the acts over the centuries. Wales has always been a part of the United Kingdom, I believe from before 1066 (The Norman Conquest). Scotland became a recognised part of the United Kingdom from when James VI of Scotland became the monarch of England (hence his title James I) and then by the later act, The Union Act in 1707 when Queen Anne of England and Scotland, signed for the two governments to become one nation. Ireland was a part of this, (from 1800) but gained independent in the 1920's.

However, Northern Ireland is considered to be a part of the United Kingdom, even though it is attached to the country of Ireland.

Bart

You may have heard people say Britain and Northern Ireland because they are the regions that make up the United Kingdom. Northern Ireland makes up the island of Ireland so for convenience it may be referred to as Ireland but it is in fact part of the British Empire or as you may know it, the UK. (they use pounds sterling, pay taxes to the Queen, etc) As for those from Northern Ireland, they are all subjects of the Queen but there could be of the opinion that they are Irish, or better still Northern Irish!

frankobserver

Definitely the whole of Ireland is Ireland.
The North is under British rule & the south under Irish rule. Both are part of the EEC.
Many Catholics in the north would consider themselves Irish first whilst many protestants would consider themselves British.
There is a long history, much hypocrisy, crazy misinterpretations of their own heritage & a lack of understanding.
So the island of Ireland is split. The majority in the North would like to remain part of the UK whilst a minority want a united Ireland. It is a complex issue & one that the various leaders have been trying to resolve.

slipstreamer

Wow, you are going to get a lot of information thrown at you. Good luck - it seems like a simple question, but the answer entails explaining English rule going back 800 years.

Northern ireland is part of the british isles as far as the goverments are concerned ireland has 2 goverments 1 in the south and 1 in the north,republicans living in Londonderry will refer to this place as Derry only.

mainwoolly

Great Britain is the largest of the British Isles (the one which comprises England, Scotland and Wales).

The second largest of the British Isles is Ireland. (which comprises Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland).

The UK is made up of Great Britain, the Northern Ireland portion of Ireland, and all the smaller islands.

Its full title is "The United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

Mr Crusty

Look into Irelandâ€™s history & you will see why Northern Ireland (or Ulster) has been under British rule.

The trouble is that Northern Irelandâ€™s population is split between or 'Unionistsâ€™ who want Northern Ireland to remain under British rule & â€˜The Nationalists' (Republicans) who dispute British rule - this division has caused a lot of bloodshed.

You obviously havenâ€™t heard about 'The Troubles' or the terrorist organisation the IRA (The Irish Republican army) - who bombed England & parts of Ireland/Northern Ireland for many for years.

Although there is â€˜peaceâ€™ at present, the terrorists on both sides of the argument still exist - some former terrorists are even politicians now.

I suggest you look in wikipedia (Note that these articles may be biased as this is still a very contentious issue & I havenâ€™t read them!):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_troubles

chat_have

I call myself a "British citizen" from Ireland just as a "British Citizen from Scotland or Wales would.
1) Great britain is England Scotland and Wales
2) United kingdome is the above plus The 6 counties of Northern Ireland
3) The "British Isles"are Great Britain, All of ireland, All the scotish isles, Isle of Mann. Isles of Scilly and all the irish Islands

eric bloodaxe

Ulster is British soil so they would be both British and Irish.

johnsredgloves

Yes, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom, comprised of 26 counties and under British rule. It is a separate country and even has different money than Ireland (the republic). Ireland uses the Euro and Northern Ireland uses the British Sterling (pound).

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