Queen of the Stone Age
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I voted Yes last time but I wasnt surprised that the No vote won.
There was, and still is, a huge amount of scaremongering, and the whole "your grandfathers died for your freedom" bit is guaranteed to work on Irish people. I know an awful lot of young lads (18-25ish) who had never voted in anything before voted No to Lisbon for that reason alone, its the whole"wind that shakes the barley" mentality, a patriotism they don't even understand but stick to out of stubborness. And that same stubborness will rebel against a second referendum, people do not like being made to look stupid and being patronised, and will not want to agree with anything the government favours after the past few months.
While I am in favour of a Yes vote, I think Ireland will go No again and I can't say I blame anyone who votes that way.
I agree with Des Bishop - a normal referendum, your choices are Yes or No. But with Lisbon, your choices are Yes or We Can Do This As Many Times As It Takes...... |
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Leaine Ni Loingsigh
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Are we just going to have to re-vote until we decide to vote yes? Because that kind of defies the point of voting.... |
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Orla C
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Let's hope that the implications of the Lisbon treaty are better explained this time. |
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Aisling xx
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We already decided. We shouldnt have to all over again!
Are they gonna keep on doing this til its passed? |
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Cub!™
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I was pro Lisbon, but my country has spoken ''no'' and even though I didn't like that BIFFO and the EU should respect it! |
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reginaldstower
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an insult to the irish voters |
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Cutie
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As des Bishop says, we're going to keep voting until we get this right! I think it's a loada shite! |
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IRISH AND PROUD
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stupid the eu should respect our vote as a nation and not have another one! |
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wos-wong-wiv-u
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The usual arguments of whether governments will lose their powers in favour of one centralised powerhouse in Europe. Question is, how will it affect you?
Trade, international relations, energy and climate change are dominant issues but I'd like to see the EU press its members to ensure adequate social programs are prioritised, things like funding for social housing.
The EU seems to worry more about trade and commerce but little about the dire existence a lot of its members citizens have to endure. Yes, we are 'first-world' (apparently) but I see poor living conditions and despair all around, plus a growing rich/poor divide. The EU needs to set higher living standards that it's members must employ. Better hospitals, schools and houses that contribute to /a/ better society/societies as a whole. These are the simplest foundations, but need to be set to high/er standards.
I'm not sure if the issues addressed are really what we need. Seems to play more to a global economy. I'll have to read up on this treaty as I'm just guessing but it's all interesting stuff. |
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Midnight Sun
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its a complete insult i mean what are the irish government going to do - hold a referendum every year until it is passed. Obviously they don't respect our opinions so what is the point? |
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Flying mop dog
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I'm delighted. The reason it failed was because people didn't want to vote for something they didn't understand. It didn't help that Libertas and Sinn Fein were telling the most idiotic lies imaginable about what it actually meant for Ireland. Maybe this time it will be better explained. If you don't understand it then make it your business to understand, ask questions, read up on it and if you couldn't be bothered doing that then just don't vote. Voting no because it was poorly explained is fair enough but voting no because you haven't bothered to look at the explanation is disgraceful. Let's hope this time people look at the real issues and not all that neutrality, abortion nonsense which wasn't even going to be affected. |
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Aslan aka Mirsa
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I think its an insult to the Irish voters. They voted it down, less than a year ago. And now they have the cheek to hold another referendum so they can get there way! I am very much angered by the way the European Union is bullying Ireland and trying to force the Irish to vote the way it wants. The French and Dutch voted against the previous treaty and now its been slightly changed they think they can just not bother asking the dutch and the french? I really am sick of this neo-liberal capitalist institution. |
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Tid
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Not meaning to sound smart, but I still don't understand the bloody thing, and I'll keep voting no until the government make it 'user friendly'. I'm not voting for something I don't understand |
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mrsunshine56987
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we hav already voted, |
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KelliBbzxx
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Its an absolute joke |
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salm90jc
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I am Irish , and i think it is a good idea.
Look i understand a Vote is a Vote, but seriously guys did we actually know what we were or were not voting for.
I doubt it...
Did we know the repercussions..I doubt it
Is it the governments fault ( keep in mind didn't vote FF) but i dint think it is their fault. Where is human responsibility to find out what are the facts.. that is ours not a governments. If u dont understand - Find out!
Also i think most people i know voted NO just to give the 2 fingers to the government as they were unhappy about other things.
We are lucky we get a chance to vote again!
and despite bull from Liberates this time , it will go through and rightly so they are just IRA re-ignited! |
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Cli
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I strongly believe that there should not be another referendum. it just shows how little the government care about the publics opinion. They should have explained the treaty fully before the last referendum, instead they spent their time denying the No Campaigns claims. They told us what wouldn't happen but not what would...so much for a democracy. |
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Podge and Rodge Tribute Band
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The people have already spoken - like it or lump it.
It's not very democratic if the government keep giving us this referendum until they get the result they want. |
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boofuswoolie
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The gravy train is well congealed by now. No doubt the discredited corrupt politicians will parade the same pup under some tarted guise.
The Irish voters remember centuries of occupation ,servitude and alien lordships The darn come-lately mohair suits who are so removed from the productive hard working folks. are fooling nobody
Disgust is ripening to angry resentment and any Blarney formula is doomed |
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greenorlagh
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It's totally outrageous. An insult to the Republic. |
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is mise lisa
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I think it's an absolute insult to the Irish population. We have already voted and we said NO! I would usually vote fianna fail but after this not a chance. And i know and understand the treaty because i have done an in depth study into it. I will be voting NO again! |
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aoife68
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NO NO NO AND NO VOTE NO ...
some government that we have that wont respect are decisions its a disgrace ...
i voted no the last time and will do it again, they shouldnt be doing it again its not right |
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hippo
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yes, but i do like the excuse "i will/did vote no because they didn't explain it probably". look, its not the government fault you are stupid and can't understand it, its pretty basic the key issues and i mean the real key issues, not forced abortion or conscription the REAL ISSUES, like trade, fisheries, crime, workers rights, civil rights, your ignorance is no excuse to blame other people for your own stupidity. just as yourself, who is Ireland's commissioner now? do you even know, it seems like a pretty big deal right, won you feel strongly against losing right, can You even name them. IDIOTS! |
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Candygirl
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I think it's a good idea - i voted no the last time as i did not feel we were given enough information to make in informed decision. I learnt more as a result of the consequences of voting no and now feel ready to make a more informed decision. |
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Is máith liom cáca millĂs!
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I think its is absolutely disgusting.
I am 16 years of age and am very well up in my knowledge on Irish history and Irish Politics both past and present.
I am also a strong supporter of Sinn Fein and so alot of my political views are based on this. (I do not however agree with the work of the IRA)
I think it is not only an insult to the Irish nation that there is a second vote of the Lisbon treaty but also that there was ever a first Lisbon treaty. The Treaty, in my eyes, should have automatically been voted at Irish Government level with a No. Is our government not aware of our Irish history, especially over the past 100 years? Do they not no of the long fight our forefathers fought in order for us to be able to call ourselves the 'Republic of Ireland'. |
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rita g
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i think it's unfair that they're totally ignoring what the irish people voted!plus,the EU is now making it so that we have to vote yes,by refusing to help us through the current recession.well,i voted yes the last time,due to my belief in the good of the EU,but now,disillusioned,i'm definitely voting no. |
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My.Way.Home.Is.Through.You.
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I agree with Aslan 100%.
Do they not get the message ?
We do NOT want the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland.
Frenchiie* |
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X.x
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I think its a load of balls to say the least.
We said no once, Do they really need us to spell it out??!!?!
sorry
lol
extremely against it
lmao
even tho i cnt even vote yet
lol
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o0pippa0o11
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I know that techniqually it's bad that they are going to disregard the previous vote but we should have voted yes. The only reason people voted no was due to scare mongering and ignorance, i mean, i was told that it meant they were brining in the death penalty and people believed that sort of rubbish.
In fact I don't think we should have been given a choice at all, it is too complex an issue to be left to the public, i mean, no other country got to vote they just went with it |
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sswannab
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Are you serious?? you have no idea what you are voting for so you vote no? are you joking? The lisbon treaty is on of the best things proposed by the european union in a long time. If you dont understand it look it up but really you should just trust in your government not to lead us astray we voted them in for gods sake.
But yes it is a good idea because many people have said they will vote yes to it the next time around. |
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HuddleFormation
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It's a good idea.
YES TO LISBOOOON! |
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