Why do the irish think that they are highly educated?

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Generally the Irish are very obsessed about their country. They believe they are superiors than others.

Just have a look at Dublin city. Litter everywhere

(Loads of links you can find if you google a little
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/324/7328/7/b

the above is just a small example)

, gang crime, drink culture, abuse events every single day. Educated people dont do that. The educated people know how to drop the litter in the bins and not in the middle of the street. The educated people know how to respect other nationalities, know how to respect others decisions. It is only the 20 pc of Irish who are really well educated.

Educated people also respect the right women have in abortion, they dont prohibit abortion by law, like the Irish do, following suit the idiotic church

And codoms were not sold in Ireland until 90's and this is civilization???
http://www.wsm.ie/story/3390

And monasteries where unmarried girls who were made pregnant were kept and abused, still worked until the 80's????

Come on Irish be frank to yourselves for once....

It really worries me when ppl are considering this country as educated. Where is the education when buses and trains are always late and no one says anything. Where is the education where no one complains about anti social behavior that plagues the cities. Where is that marvelous education? Maybe not here in Ireland.Where is the education when people spend thousand of euro every week for drinks and fight in the streets?

Uk's and America's education system tops the Irish. I am the evidence for that. Besides, Spanish, Italians, French Greeks speak more languages than their natives. Irish Don't. At least in the UK and USA colleges there is equal opportunity no matter what color, race, nationality you are. Things unknown for the Irish.

Education... can the Irish spell the word right?

I don't mean there are not good universities and the most of them work exactly like the UK universities. There are of course. The schools are of the worst in Europe. They are still controlled by the church, the students are given the answers in the exams and they don't know how to use their brain. High literacy rate means that people can read... this is a big achievement do you think? High literacy rates, it doesn't mean good education level.

Tap: Nationality is nothing more than an accident of birth. Ppl can be proud but not anti-immigrant. You must get a life firstly and take a lesson from the world outside. That shows how xenophobic Ireland is.

And by the way I have the right to say my opinion without being insulted by someone. Don't you think so? That's why your answer has been reported. Do you like Censorship?

alpha

We are not the only ones who consider that we are highly educated;
The World Economic Forum report ranks the quality of the educational system in Ireland as 6th in the world behind Singapore, Finland, Switzerland, Denmark, Belgium, and Iceland. The ranking of the countries you mention are; Britain - 30th, U.S.- 17th, France - 27th, and Spain - 50th
The UNICEF rankings of educational systems in the world's richest countries reports that "South Korea has the most effective education system in the world's richest countries, with Japan in second place and the United States and Germany near the bottom" Ireland ranks in 10th place.
The United Nations Development Programme Human Development Index which measures life expectancy, educational attainment and income ranks Ireland in 5th place.

wendylilly

Because we are! It's really that simple. Our education system is far more difficult than most other countries. It's obvious even from watching american and english tv programmes about young people, the stuff they are learning in school is laughable. My maths teacher told my class that the topics which we are covering for the Leaving Cert aren't done in America until university. Another teacher who had taught in London for years told us that he couldn't believe how easy they had it over there. We are really challenged at school. Entry into third-level is generally very high in Ireland, and among young adults 41.6% of them have attained third-level degrees - the second highest level in the EU after Cyprus.

Ã‰irerua

Firstly, the Irish workers are not protesting about the global economic crisis. They are protesting the fact that it has been mishandled by an incompetent government, which has resulted in thousands of private sector job losses and a significant wage reduction for public sector employees.

Secondly, the Irish leaving Certificate is one of the most highly held second level training and examination systems in the world. This already puts us ahead of most countries, especially America and even Britian in terms of Secondary School Pass Levels. So we are highly educated and proud of it.

Ireland does not just have trinity, we have a large base of colleges, institutes of technology, media colleges, business schools etc, so don't say all we have is Trinity

We're not cocky, we just know what we're capable of, especially when we choose to learn about something.

AobhrÃl (Suburban Fairy)

Lol I know, our education system is definitely better than America's or the UK's but it is eclipsed by Central Europe eg Switzerland and Scandanavia's.
Although we were actually protesting our governments handling of the economic climate, not the recession itself.

Ireland has the highest literacy rate in Europe, UK, especially England has the lowest

Rabbit R

It's better than the U.k and us in my experience... but it sure as feck isn't better than the system in the Czech Republic or Germany

Soul Jacker

I think the real question is why are you such a wind up merchant?

As someone mentioned above we are not the only nation who believe we have a decent level of education. Why the insecurity?

For me highly educated means a high number of people in the country have skills and qualifications and here Ireland does well.

http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/socind/education.htm

You seem to have a hang up with the elites of society.
So way don't you make a few more 'educated' statements which you don't seem to be able to back up with sources?

slipstreamer

Not all Irish are like that, but I have noticed what you are talking about from some.

People like that generally know that their education system is better than the US (or whomever) because their media tells them it is. I often wonder if those people really believe everything they see on TV? I mean it's not like there is a editorial slant or bias to that reporting, now is there? (Of course there is) The media of most countries spout the same nationalistic line. That is when they aren't decrying that education standards are slipping.The truth is most western countries are highly educated, and the education levels are similar. People who have studied in more than one country recognize this as they have a basis of comparison.

The US could not have possibly risen to the technological highs that is has because of excellent higher education, now could it? America is still graduating plenty of people each year from such internationally recognized universities as MIT and Texas A&M who go on to work on projects such as NASA, etc....Trinity and UCD are very good schools. So are Harvard and Yale, so is Oxford, etc...

People can believe what they want in the end. But there is a reason the US has done well in technology and science.

As a specific example of the high standards of education in the US, I have attached the bio of a product of the US school system (although he did study at Oxford as well) He was recently appointed by President Obama to a government advisory position.

Leaine Ni Loingsigh

Starting even in infant classes (4-5 year old) the Irish education system is better. Unlike in America and England, our children are challenged at this age. (I babysit a 5 year old girl who can count to 20 in four languages after 6 months of formal education.) Our examinations, the Junior Cert. and Leaving Cert. are harder than the English GCSE's given that we do one exam on one day, that generally makes up the entire grade. It is only in certain subjects that we have the option of graded coursework. We also do, what I deem 'proper' subjects. In England they have options such as 'Drama'. I'm sorry, but I think the student that has to do Honors level Math is going to be more intelligent than the person who studied Drama.
As for Trinity being the only university on par with those in England? That is ridiculous People with degrees from NUIG or UL have gone on to be far more successful than people who went to Trinity, maybe that was true 50 years ago, but times have change and Ireland has many excellent universities

Eamonn S- I'd rather be admitted to a University under my acedemic achievement than on what sports I played, or community service I did. Getting in an American college is far too easy in my opinion and that is why Irish graduates are more intelligent- we actually studied hard for the opportunity.

Eamonn S

I would have to say looking at both sides of the coin, raised in the Irish educational system and currently putting my oldest son through college in the U.S, that while the Irish system is decent it is also outdated having been there done that too much emphasis is put on memory in academics rather than pursuit of the individual. In Ireland entry to third level is dependent on academic achievement, while in the U.S. the total person is scrutinized. I know when I left high school in Ireland I had little more than a bunch of A's and B's and if willing to hide behind a B.A. or a B.Sc. could have gone on to a fine career of teaching instead of doing. However when my son, educated entirely in the U.S, left for university he was already well established in sports, had mastered five different musical instruments, had received several awards for civic involvement in his community, not to mention the straight A report card. I supposed what I'm trying to say that while the Irish tout themselves as academically superior shame on the U.S. for supporting the complete individual.

anto007777

wtf not all of us irish are snobs and you americans and british or werever your from you people can be ignorant snobby f##ks too

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