짙4 for an One-Way Tube Journey in London??????

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apollonius

The cash fare is set at a punitive level to persuade people to use Oyster. Using an Oyster the fare is 짙2.00, or 짙1.50 at night and weekends.

Spook 542 - of course you can buy Oysters if you live outside London. Just get one from the main line station when you arrive.

Sunrae - haven't got a clue where you get your stats from. Last year London had 15m overseas visitors, up 10% from the year before. Dubai has 6.5m visitors.
http://www.dubaitourism.ae/News/default.asp?ID=1454
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2007/apr/23/travelnews

Some journeys in London are incredibly good value. You can catch a bus from Croydon to Heathrow for the princely sum of 90p.

mark

Yeah, but if you get an oyster card it will pay for itself in about two days.

The cash-handling aspect of the underground is very expensive. If you can eliminate cash fares, you can stop having pickups and people emptying machines every day and save a shed load of money.

Sassanak - Son Of A Preacher Man

I only just starting visiting London this year after an absence of 5 years. The first thing my brother said to me when he knew I was coming to visit was "get an oyster card" - I worked out how much I saved in the 5 days I was there and it is definitely worth getting one!

Marky

As Mark above mentioned, handling cash is expensive. Its half the price on Oyster which is what everyone is switching to and is much cheaper.

I understand if you lvei outside London, but if you occassionaly get the tub, its best to buy an oyster with about 짙20 on it as it doesn't expire. When you run low, you just top it up.

JohnnyOneLung

Why are you complaining?
Just get an oyster card (its free)and put money onto it.
The same journey will cost you 짙1.50
Or if you use your oyster card on the bus it is only 90 pence.

Dont understand how it is unfair to anyone.

Penfold

Have you considered an Oyster card? You pay a 짙3 refundable deposit for Oyster with Pre Pay top up. The 짙3 is refunded is on return of the card. The Zone 1-2 fare is 짙2 peak, 짙1.50 off peak.

AndyG45

The Oyster Card system is straightforward to use and easy to apply for. A Canadian relative bought an Oyster Card before his last trip to London, earlier this year; he has been staying with us again over the past couple of weeks, and commented that it was the most sensible system he had EVER seen used on the London Transport network.

There are numerous posters, leaflets and adverts pointing out the advantage of the Oyster system. Spook452, anybody visiting London can get and use one, not sure where you got the idea that it was restricted.

This is all part of Mayor Livingstone's plan to rejuvenate the transport network in London, after decades of neglect under successive governments. For those who complain about conditions, overcrowding etc - trust me, I've been commuting in and out of London for over 25 years, it is MUCH better than it used to be: not perfect, sure, but it's getting a whole lot better every year.

EDIT - In answer to Tim D's comment about the cap, you will never be charged more than the Travelcard rate for the day; so if you are hopping on and off buses and tubes all day, the later journeys will probably cost you nothing.

spook542

it is a rip off but the price is maginally less expensive than using a car. Clever huh?

using an oyster card is only an option for a few as if you come in from outside London you can't buy one.

Tim D

Agreed the 짙4 fare is a total ripoff.
I don't live in London but bought myself a pay-as-you go Oyster card one time when I was visiting. Walk up to an Underground station, cough up about a tenner to put on the card and 짙3 'deposit' and it's still anonymous. Any time you need to top it up, stick another tenner on it at a ticket office.
Oh, and the wife borrows it when she goes shopping (annihilating my credit card more like). The only possible downside with an anonymous one is that if you lose it, that's it. Gone. Probably another reason I only do 짙10 at a time.
Isn't there some kind of cap on daily Oyster fares as well, so no matter how much you gallivant around it won't ever deduct more than a certain amount per day?

sandeep m

Yes, it's too costly. I'm an Indian. Three months back I went to visit my daughter in U.K. I paid 500 pounds for my fare from India to Manchester but 200 pounds to go to see London from Manchester. No hotel stay or anything. That bus for sightseeing itself cost 18 pounds which is equivalent to Rupees 1476 in Indian currency. I can travel 300 kms. by air in India in that amount. In coming years Indians will be better off than an average Briton. U have to control inflation. Britons should vouch for bad days ahead if the economy goes down the hill like this.

Daft One

So you are spending 8 dollars a day to travel back and forth to work? Oh my goodness, you might as well get a car, or a bicycle or something, being that you are already spending so much money on transportation.

8 dollars a day is far too much!

Maybe you can find a mate and car-pool everyday instead of taking the underground train.

Cheers

tutormike

A four pound fare for a few stops is expensive, but a four pound fare from Arnos Grove to Heathrow seems cheap to me.

Have you considered that the four pound single tube journey, is a method of subsidising the vast number of people who get free transport in London, such as anyone 60 or above with a Freedom Pass, or kids below the age of 11?

Those answerers who are advocating the Oyster Card as the best thing since sliced bread, are failing to mention a salient point.

An Oyster with Pre-pay cannot be used on the railway network except with a few exceptions where the tube train and the railway train run on the same tracks.

There is another issue. If you have Pre-pay and you get on a bus, but the bus stops short of its destination, and you have to take a second bus to reach that destination, you have paid 2 fares. If you go down into the tube and discover that there has been a problem and there arent going to be any trains in the near future. If you decide to leave the station, the Oystercard will read that as a jouney taken and deduct the relevant fare.

SunRae

The cost of travel in London is scandalous, whether it be by public transport, or worse still by car - my mum and stepdad took me and my fiance last week as we were visiting them. To drive into london he had to pay the 8 pounds congestion charge and then to park... wait for it.... 30 pounds for 24 hours!!!
Good job we only stayed for one night. Then he had to pay the 8 pound congestion charge again for the pleasure of leaving.
I am a Northerner who lived in London for 4 years, I did my time. Now I live in sunny Dubai and have no plans or returning home any time soon! It cost me a tenner a week to fill my car up with petrol, and there is only one toll road here which you have to pay about 60p to drive through. It is now about the third most popular place to go on holiday... not sure what number London is, but I know it's not first or second.

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