Devolutoion for Scotland

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Mike Sanders

you are quite correct Bob, the scottish like the idea of devolution, but if we were to completely seperate ourselves from them they would be in serious cack.

Personally, i'd be happy to watch them all suffer, since they think all us english are brastuds anyway.

Geeza Sooka Yerlips

Could you make a space on the Tyne for four Trident subs
and a disused warehouse in London for the cruise missiles
and nuclear warheads presently stored 20 miles from Glasgow?

Barbara Doll to you

The relationship might be similar to the Republic of Ireland.
It's people are not British, but are not considered foreigners in the legal sense of the word.

Jock

You may be in Newcastle, and i've heard Geordie's described as "Scots with their heads bashed in". It seems in your case this is true. Hadrian's Wall? That was never a boundary between Scotland & England. The Romans built that & they built that a long time before Scotland & England existed. Your area was called Berniccia way back then. We have our own electricity system, indeed we sell a lot to your guys in England, the same with our water too as we have more than enough to go around. Shutting down radio & TV transmitters etc... I've noticed a disturbing trend that it seems to be only English people that mention this. I've never heard anybody in Scotland saying it. You can't even spell Edinburgh correctly. Frankly, the majority of English people shouldn't need to worry about visiting Scotland. We have devolution at the moment, you don't need a passport to visit at the moment do you?

If we ever get independence here I don't know, but if it keeps the isolatory fools away from us that can only be a good thing.
I'm sure all decent English & Scottish people wouldn't care less about needing to use a passport to visit Scotland.

Dollypants...you might get more money in London but you'd be just as well off as you are just now because the cost of living in London is so high, and why would you want to move to such a huge, impresonal city in the first place anyway?

jackie m

you are all saying we wouldn't manage up here in Scotland if we were separated, and you always like to point out we get everything free - we don't, higher education yes if we can get it but most of the unis are full with foreign students who's government pay for them to come here, why would you want to shut off the national grid, it just shows that what we say about the English is true, if it was the other way about we in Scotland wouldn't care, we wouldn't try to downgrade you as people because when it boil downs to it we are all British. I am not going on about free things as we don't get them only free prescriptions if we are on child or tax credit which I'm sure will be the same as in England, why is there lots of Scott's in London? because we don't have good wages up here, go onto the jobcentre.com for Scotland and there is nothing above the minimum wage, so how can we be worse off if we got devolution?

Doctor John

Could we repatriate Gordon Brown?

gordon3392

I think it will be a very long time,,,they will still be paying for the Scottish Parliament building that was over priced and over due,,,,,

david h

yes just let them have it.

Andrew C

replace hadrian's wall with an electrified fence and a moat

Alan F

If they want independence it should be exactly that, nothing more for free from England. That aside all I know is that their Parliament was opening with a promise to abolish all Bridge Tolls. Ours is opening with the promise of Congestion charges and police with ticket machines. Ding,Ding "Fines please".

jed slade

separatism is the biggest enemy of people power. In the scottish situation,it is a token gesture.complete separatism would not benefit them,or anyone else.By all means keep the culture,but it is only by pulling together that you have any strength.In a country as small as britain,this situation is ridiculous.IT makes you wonder what was really behind this move in the first place?.SOMEONE HIGH UP, somewhere ,has made a whole heap of money out of this,a very smart move,and not for the good of scotland.This was a behind the scenes pocket liner.I lived in scotland (BLACK ISLE)for a number of years,and agree, about the development issues,regarding scottish(british)oil.The ulterior motives behind it are still pondered.

Ian M

What garbage! have you never heard of the European Union?
As for the national grid- we generate too much electricity for our own needs and I think you'll find electricity moves from here to you insular little people. Ask yourself this. If we are such a burden why do successive governments fight so hard to keep us? I think we might just survive! I don't dislike English people in the slightest -just the totally uneducated ones like you!

Albert arrrrrrrrggh

I'm not sure it will ever happen. Like Quebec, Scotland likes the idea of devolution, mainly as a weapon to insult the English (who don't really care), but they're not half as keen on actually doing it. If England announced she was going alone, I think you'd hear cries of betrayal from north of the border.

Dragoner

Alex Salmond does not have a majority in the Scottish Parliament. It seems likely now that his former supporters from other parties are deserting him that Devolution is going to have to go on the back-burner for a while - or as we say dahn sahf - kicked into the long grass.

The issue of Scottish independence is not going to go away. However, looking at all the 'tricks' that Mr Salmond has up his sleeve and in mind, it looks like being a long hard road and a struggle.

No one really minds if Scotland wants to break away from UK. The problem will come when the English descide collectively they are no long prepared to foot the bill for Scotland - eg., free uni-education, free everything else, mostly paid for by us Londoners by the way, or so it seems to me.

Also, what of an English Parliament? There are plenty of folk who may wish to go down this road. Forget the prats in Westminster - they're out of touch and busy getting fat on the gravy train. Time to set England free.

Don't know why I'm saying all of this - I'm Welsh and really it's none of my business but I think the English should do something for themselves and stop worrying about Scotland.

As for Wales, I don't think the Welsh care much for the idea of independence. An Assembly is one thing but break away? No chance. The English usually pay all the bills anyway and we're just stuck together through history like a pair of madly in love limpets.

gnhlanarkshire

See links below, Bob...

I think they will make my feelings quite clear!

Robin

Devolution is NOT about closing borders and cutting off services and using passports etc. Devolution IS all about Political Independence, giving the people of the Devoluted country a fair say in what happens in their country. Giving them the freedom to spend their taxes on what THEY consider to be most important and NOT being dictated to by a group of politicians over 700 miles away, who don't have a clue.
I think, after all the atrocities the english have done to the Scots over the centuries, granting them Devolution is the very least we can do in recompence.
SCOTLAND FOREVER!!!!!!

Angel

Give Scotland it's freedom, the English dont care one way or the other, what do the scots do for us?

Dollypants

well said bob!

im a proud scot but can think of nothing worse that devolution, in my opinion it will ruin our country. We do nto ahve the resources to sustain as an independant country. our economy relies far to heavily on oil (which is due to run out within 50 years) and tourism (will as many visitors come north if they have to get a visa or go through passport control to come up for a night out/weekend away)

Scogtland may have some of the best universities in the world but we struggle to keep graduates in the country. There have been amny studies which highlight the population structure which has a massive drop in the 25-30 age group as people flee scotland to find decent wages down south. I decided to stay in Scotland but if i was to move downt o London i could earn double the wages for the same job....makes you wonder why people stay in Scotland!

I hope scots see sense and if we do have a referendum on this they vote NO!!

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