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alan m

I am confused. Some people say they live/born in Ireland. So does that mean they are Irish or are British?

I mean because Northern Ireland is British.
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Nessie Your conclusion does not add up !

    



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Alice
All Northern Irish people, whether they like it or not are British, as Northern Ireland is ruled by the Queen and part of The United Kingdom.

Some may call themselves Irish, but really if they were born in Northern Ireland, they are British.

Most people would call themselves British and are in favour of being part of the UK.

People in the Republic of Ireland are Irish because Ireland is not part of the UK.


I should be doing something else
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As per the Good Friday agreement, anyone born in Northern Ireland has the right to identify their nationality as being Irish, British, or Both.

Someone said up there that Northern Ireland is part of Britain, this is incorrect, it is a constituent country of the United Kingdom, but the residents have the right to call themselves British if they so choose, which can lead to some confusion and has left you with a few incorrect answers here (Including Tasha, I might add)

Nationality is all down to the individual I guess. I have a British Passport but call my nationality Northern irish.


King Of Dorksville
People living in Northern Ireland can be Irish, British or Both, is the simple answer.

TASHA........

What you have written is complete nonsense.

"People from N.I. hold a UK passport not a British one. How thick are some people. Unbeliveable." People in Northern Ireland either hold the passport for the United Kingdom of great Britain and Northern Ireland (The exact same passport held in England/Scotland/Wales) OR The Irish passport. You come on here calling other people thick and then give an incorrect answer yourself? tut tut!


Harry M
Reading through answers I can see why Irish people want to hold on to their nationality,
I was born in Derry (not Londonderry) I have place of birth on my passport as Ireland, so I am 100% Irish,
If a dog is born in a stable does that mean he's a horse ?


Pip
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I think that one is down to personal choice of the individual. Be careful because if you get it wrong pepole get very upset. Always best to ask i think,


Tea TEA
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Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom but still, Northern Ireland is on the Island of Ireland. Thus, you can have either Irish or British citizenship! I think this is a fairer way because many people have different opinions and the political situation is difficult in our country, so who has the right to say who has which nationality?

Northern Ireland is NOT part of Great Britain. Great Britain only includes England, Scotland and Wales. Although Northern Ireland is still a British country (a little confusing with the names, right?!)

Protestants usually class themselves as Unionists, therefore they would call themselves British.

Catholics usually class themselves as Nationalists, therefore they would call themselves British.


sunshine01
People from the Republic of Ireland are not British in anyway whatsoever, they are Irish.

The situation in N.Ireland is somewhat different as it remains part of the United Kingdom. Here people can chose their nationality at will. They may have either an Irish or a British passport, or even both. It depends on the individual and their political and cultural background.


johnbhoy26
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the catholic community claim irish nationality and the protestants say they are british. personally speaking im irish and have an irish passport. i dont mind whether someone claims to be either but a lot of people here frown on people who claim irish nationality. we could get into the politics of it but i wont. hope this helps


greenorlagh
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ice100 puts it quite succinctly. We have the right to call ourselves British or Irish (if born in Northern Ireland). People born in the Republic are 100% Irish - no doubting that.


Jon E
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Depends on whether they are in Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland, if they are in Northern Ireland then they are British, if the are in the Republic of Ireland, then they are Irish, because Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. And the Republic of Ireland is a country on it's own.


Amy M
northern ireland is not britain!!!! its a fact!! britain is england scotland wales.
BUT, it is seen as part of the united kingdom.
It is up to the individual in northern ireland whether they see themselves as irish or 'british' its up that particular person.
If you are born in northern ireland you have DUAL nationality. you can get a passport from the united kingdom or you can have an irish passport.
i was born in northern ireland and i have had both passports.
i consider myself irish though.
Im sure ill get a few sectarian thumbs down though from saying that!!!
jeez!! its not as one sided as some people are making out!!
correct me if im wrong, but u cannot, from birth, have a passport of a country that you were not born in or belong to. i cannot just randomly say oh yea i fancy being american and instantly get the citizenshhip and passport can i?? theres all sorts of proceedures you have to go thru, visas etc. therefore if i am born in northern ireland, my nationality can be british or irish. as i am able to obtain both passports.
its not all black and white people.
thats half the fecking trouble. i see other peoples views yet my view is completely irrelevant??? fuckin ridiculous.


Yellow Walrus After Dark...
If you live in Northern Ireland you can own both a british and an irish passport - you can officially deem yourself irish.
For ease I just tell others I'm Irish, especially when in Scotland.
Northern Ireland is British, yes. So why is the Republic and the Mainland collectively called The British Isles? They lost that bit back in 1922.


Mark C
Sam McCaughtry put it very well when he said he was proud to be Irish. He says though he is a special type of Irish, one that is affiliated to the Crown.

100 years ago we were all Irish and ruled by the UK. As a Northern Unionist I'm proud to call myself Irish.

Respect must go to anyone who has different aspirations as long as they are within peaceful means.


Holly9
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You almost answered your own question. :)

Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom, and there is also the Republic of Ireland. People in both places consider themselves Irish.

Governments and an individual's culture and sense of identity aren't necessarily the same thing. The Irish have a common culture, though politically the island is divided.


ferg92
both. Geographically Irish, politically British. People in northern ireland are entitled to dual nationality. Many do not take it up purely because of their religion. It's stupid the way people there associate British with protestant and Irish with catholic in the 21st century due to the rise of atheism and secularism.


Jarrold
I'm British by nationality, and English by the place of birth. So you can be British/Welsh, British/Scots and British/Irish and British/wherever you were born. Unless a person is born in Southern Ireland, of course. They would be just Irish by Nationality and birth. Be proud of your roots as well as your nationality. Makes the world richer.


Mighty Celt
Republicans/catholics call themselves Irish, protestants/loyalists/unionists call themselves British. The majority were in favour to stay British because the majority were unionists. Ulster is nine counties, six of the nine are part of the north and three are part of the republic. If Ireland isn't Irish, this must mean England isn't English and Scotland isn't Scottish? You seem to have already answered this question yourself, as its a bit one sided. The troubles in short were the Irish wanted a united Ireland and the unionists/protestants wanted to remain part of the UK.


SKA
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Depends on whether they are from Northern Ireland or not for them to associate themselves as British.


Tango
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Britain is categorised as England, Scotland, Wales and northern Ireland so if you were born in northern Ireland you would be classed as British born.
I was born in England but if I am asked where I was born I have to declare that I am British.


aloha welly boots
to nessie I am northern irish and hold a british passport so therefore by law i am 100 per cent BRITISH, GET IT!, anyway to answer your question alan ,catholics basically class themselves as irish and can hold an irish passport and protestants traditionally class themselves as british, but this is even more confusing as a lot of protestants class themselves also as ulster scots because ulster was basically founded by scottish people. well said alan keep on answering.


Cymraes.
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It's the same for people born in Wales. I class myself as being Welsh, even though I am also British. I should think it's the same for the Scots.


Loren S
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Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales. Northern Ireland is part of the British Isles. Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland are of Ireland. Donegal is the most northerly but classed as 'The South'. While Cornwall is deemed by the people therein not to be a part of England. And Saint Patrick was a Welshman born in Scotland. Confused? Join the club pal. "That has stirred them up", said she gleefully.


Nessie from Loch Ness
Nothern ireland is in the united kingdom and not great britain that is only england, scotland and wales.

100% fact.

So they are Irish


dubbleyu
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I live and was born in northern ireland. Im British not Irish.


Angel
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I am English but don't class myself has British.

Britain is England, Scotland & Wales altogether,

The UK is England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland altogether,


b beru
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if you were born in Ireland then you are Irish, and the sooner England give us back the north the better.


star
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Northern Ireland is not British, it is part of the UK. people from England, Scotland and wales and British. Someone from anywhere in Ireland is Irish, whether Eire or northern Ireland.

People from N.I. hold a UK passport not a British one. How thick are some people. Unbeliveable.

Why have i got thumbs down when I'm right? people need to get their facts right.





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