Time to send these migrant home?

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fiona

Now do you believe Enoch Powell?

The man will hounded out of public life, accused of being a racist, but in reality he could see what was coming and nobody heeded his warnings.

astonite40

I am in complete agreement with you. let us start to look after our own first..

I should be doing something else

Yes and No.
As Helen said there are a lot of foreign people here who are working an honest job, paying their taxes and contributing to society, but I definitely think the government should be more selective about who they let in, and people should be able to demonstrate exactly how they are going to contribute to society and our economy before they are let in, and they should be monitored and the moment that they are no longer contributing, they should be made to leave.

devonian2001

Good on you mate I totally agree

jamand

Absolutely agree!!!

Floppy Dick

Yes you are right. But we all know that it will only get worse. The loony liberal left wing politicians who run this country are totally out of control. The face of England has been irreversibly changed in only a few years. England has become a toilet that is rapidly filling up with s.hit.

andipandi

Couldn't agree more.

Helen B - this country already IS in trouble - or hadn't you noticed?

Jas B

Do you propose that we also send home the 44,443 foreign nationals who were employed by the NHS last year.

These new recruits play a vital role in front line services in every field of health care - from general practice, to surgery, psychiatry and nursing.

Should we also send home the 2,200 dentists who came to the UK to work in the NHS.

Without these workers there would not be a National Health Service.

All of these workers not only help to keep the health service working but pay taxes.

Around 200,000 Brits left the UK last year all of those who like me went to live in other European countries have the benefit of that countries health care, including maternity services.

Many Brits are retiring to Spain where they receive the same health care as the Spanish population. This is no doubt a drain on their health care system as people require more health care as they get older.

So are you proposing that all us Brits who live abroad should have to come home as this would only be fair.

Killah_Rabbit

i had a conversation with an eastern europian last night whilst working in a shop! he didnt understand a word i was saying so i shortchanged him! LEARN ENGLISH BEFORE COMING TO MY SHOP!

laura c

Send them home, are NHS is on its knees, we should stop all freebies and look after are own British people, i think too many foreigners take the sh*t out of this country, are government needs to start taking action!!

chip2001

Don't forget that the Poles are also claiming child benefit for all the kids they already had before they left Poland.
Great isn't it!

travelchick21

this country is far too soft letting any tom . dick or harry in , if they have proof that they're straight away going to be working , then maybe they can stay but as long as we tax payers keep on being made fools of by other european countries ,then this country isn't going to get any better no wonder people are moving abroad more and more

Adrian G

Quite a number of our Neighbours" come to England, purposely to have their babies. It is cheaper to come here for a holiday and pay hotel bills or stay with relatives, than to have their child born in their own country,where they have to pay for the childbirth.Even our American neighbours do it. As for those who say they pay their Taxes etc. many have no intention of working, they only come to bleed our NHS or DHSS. Those that do work, are usually conciencious objectors, who "escape" to England to avoid going into their relative country forces. Simply look at the ages of those who are hanging around your town or city. Many of these cannot get jobs, as they have no work permit, or are classed as refugees, but in the same statement, many are working cash in hand, screwing the system again.
I have no problems with "True" refugees, but why are they not re-patriated when the troubles in their country of origin have ceased, and how do they manage to get as far as the British Isles when they are,as refugees only supposed to be able to cross 3 borders. The French simply wave them through. I'm sure this is why the channel tunnel was built!! Flood the tunnel and float landmines in the channel, with one route lane open - OUT,or I can envisage another civil war on the horizon.

Andy

Although, yes, migrant workers use up a lot of money, they also contribute quite a lot to the economy, also, there are still many job spaces in the UK.

RICHARD R

its time to abolish council tax and these immigrants would then think again about living here . if they can share the council tax between 12 in a house , it is nothing . time to make everyone to pay their way ,not just the hard working . that also includes the serial mothers who have a baby to gain more benefits , then you have the lazy " bad back brigade " there was one in my street that pretended that he couldn't move , but could play tennis with his kids at the weekend . finally it is down to the employers to stop paying sh#t wages for sh#it jobs . if this situation does not change , Britain will be a nation full of work shy , benefit beggers and non english speaking people . looks like a one way tiket to oz is what i want , beacause , im not paying to keep VICKY POLLARD in cigarettes .

Cari

Well, I agree that there are too many foreigners in the UK. We should close the borders to any new people coming here, and those who are unemployed should be required to leave. And, there should be greater restrictions placed on what help foreigners are entitled to from the state.

But, I'd just like to point out that there are a couple of flaws in your argument. I'm not debating the actual statistics.
- How do you know they did not get pregnant in the UK? They could have emigrated to the UK at any time in their entire lives, yet you're assuming that they emigrated within the last nine months. Similarly, whilst the mother is foreign-born, you don't know where the father is from - he could be British for all you know.
- How do you know they are not paying taxes in the UK? Everyone who is employed is paying taxes. Do you consider "foreign-born" to be synonymous with "unemployed"? I don't, and I expect that there are many British people who feel that they've lost out on work prospects to foreigners and they certainly wouldn't agree with you.

I have a bit of an issue with your question to be honest, for the simple fact that, whilst I am English-born to English parents, I resided overseas for a long time and as such have only been a UK taxpayer for the past four years. (But then, as a 28-year-old, I've only been any kind of taxpayer at all for only very slightly longer.) So do you think that I should not be entitled to NHS healthcare? If you do think that, where do you propose the cut off should be? How many years should one have had to have lived and worked here? I would hope that if I were to have a baby, I would get NHS treatment as I now consider England to be my home country (whereas I didn't four years ago).

But the ironic thing is ... I find the NHS so appalling compared with what I was used to overseas, that I am more than happy to pay for private treatment. I am currently having private treatment for a condition, and when it comes to dentistry there is no way I would consider anything except private. The one time I was admitted to hospital here, I was treated by an Eastern European nurse who spoke about three words of English.

Edit: I actually think that the NHS should be abolished. Those people who do pay tax could see their tax rate decrease as a result, meaning they'd have more take-home pay which they could then invest in private healthcare insurance if they wished (many employers provide this anyway). If you couldn't afford, you wouldn't get. Plenty of other countries have no public healthcare system - look at the USA. So why do we need one?

linda c

Any woman giving birth deserves the best care she can get. Not only is her life at risk and believe me many woman still do die in child birth, but the babies life is very much at risk. Would you not like the best for your partner. I'm sick of people belly aching about foreign parties coming over here and getting free Nat health. Nothing is free in this life and one way or another believe me they've paid for it. Most of these people pay tax when they come here because we won't do half the jobs they do for the basic min. wage. They're not sitting around claiming benefits for doing nothing like so many British people. We NEED these people to fill in the positions that we won't or can't. GOOD LUCK TO THE LADIES IN QUESTION, and of course their babies.

David S

Who do you mean exactly? All people with brown or black skin? 1st generation immigrants? Or those who have been here since the 1950s. You really need to define exactly who you mean. Even if you sent away all the people in Britain who were not born here, the Health Service and much of the transport system would cease to operate; your streets and airports would no longer be cleaned; most restaurants would have to close and all those late night shops you love to patronise would disappear too; the abrupt decline in the working population would also cause the worst economic recession in living memory.

Gunny Ryan O'connor

IF everyone started to email the PM at his email address then maybe he would get the the idear lol
http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/page821.asp how pi*** off the UK ppl are lol

lola

Do you mean illegal immigrants you maybe should have been more specific? Many immigrants actually want to work although are unable to because they must wait until their asylum application has been approved. Most would much rather they could have stayed and worked in the country that they arrived from but perhaps due to civil war, genocide and politics they were unable to.
Are you saying that these women do not deserve to receive health care treatment that I'm sure you would demand if you're wife/mother/girlfriend required it abroad?
You should also remember that many legal immigrants are working in employment sectors that Brits refuse to and have a strong work ethic. It was not that long ago that our government was encouraging people to come to the uk to work unskilled/semi skilled jobs.
There are also postive aspects to immigration such as an enriched culture and diversity. Maybe you should stop reading the sun.

johnny_farang

You are asking the wrong question.

The vast majority of these mums are here legally - due to the regulations of the EU regarding free transfer of people. So you can't "send them home" even if you wanted to. Also many of those here *are* paying taxes - but even if they weren't they would still be pefectly entitled to the healthcare they receive under the current regulations.

The question perhaps should be "Has this government developed a well-thought out and well managed immigration policy?" or "Has this government planned well in advance of the influx of Eastern European migrants?" or even "Have successive governments over the last 40 years failed to deliver a sensible immigration policy?"

helen b

What about the taxes and National Insurance these migrants ARE paying our government? Most come here to work and they DO pay tax and insurance.
Many of these people will work here for a few years then return to their home countries. They are here because our living standards are better, and they work hard to set themselves up and send money home.
They are young and fit, do not cost much as health goes. When they retire, this country does not fit the bill.
Without these people coming here to do the jobs we choose not to, because they are too menial or low paid, this country would be in trouble.

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