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What is the New York accent?

I've lived in NYC for all 17 years of my life and have never heard it before. The majority speak in regular voices like those used in movies and shows. Other than that, I here immigrant accents. The only native New Yorker though that speaks differently than everyone is probably my math teacher who says coffee as cawfee. What exactly is it? Is that the accent because I think the stereotypical NYC accent probably died before I was born. It was bothering me since when I went to the south, no one believed I was from NYC since I don't have the accent.

    



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09? sistaa?
it depends on the enviornment you're in and basically where you were raised.

i mean when i'm in nyc.. i hear a lot of people with the accent.
typically i describe the accent as the one they have on the sopranos. you know knida italian. but i dont think its "nasally".

anyways jlo has the accent too.. it's a matter of where you're rasied and whether or not you're parenst talked that way..

lol btw don't worry about not having it..A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T.


Dart Swinger
I hear New Yawk accents, which can vary by borough, every time I visit. Have some cawfee. No tawkin!

By the way, it's not "Paaaark the caaaaar." That's Boston. In NYC, you "Pawk the caw."


Andy
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We have a lot of kids from NYC and Long Island at my University and they have that nassaly (as you said coffee as cawfee) sound to them. You can definitely tell who is from that area and who is not. Atleast I think it is very distinctive.


WhY~IS~[t][H][e]~*sKy~BluE?!::..
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i always imagined it as Danny DeVito kinda. ever heard of him? very funny guy/actor/writer/comedian etc... anyways, i don't know much of his background therefore i could be mistaking his accent from some other accent.


MzPhAtBooTy
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Duhhhh If you live in NY, you cant notice it. Just like how people from the South have accents to us, We have accents to them.


sleepingliv
Listen to your math teacher's pronunciation. He's got the accent down-pat. I would deduce he is either from Brooklyn or Queens.

PS - Shame on any New Yorker claiming that the authentic accent can be heard in The Soprano's. That's a New Jersey accent.


Marie
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I think that the issue is that the "New York" accent is really various regional accents.

When people think of typical NY accents, they think more along the lines of the old Brooklyn accent (like the Sopranos) or the nasal Long Island accent (like some of those Real Housewives..).

If you grew up in most parts of NYC and didn't have parents with strong accents, then chances are, you have a minimal accent that has some Northeast tendencies. (i.e. pin and pen are two different words, you say bag instead of sack, soda instead of pop...etc.)


Dark and Stormy Night
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How ya doin? You have an New York accent. You just don't realize it because for you it's normal. No matter where I go people know I'm from NY.


kwflamingo
I have a very heavy Noo Yawk accent. I've lived in Key West for 10 years now and haven't lost it yet. Originally from Long Island, but always sounded like I was from Brooklyn or da Bronx! People tease me about it occasionally, but I just laugh along with them - in fact, my bf who is from Georgia has begun to sound like me! People ask him when did he start tawkin' like a Noo Yawker!! I think it's a hoot!!


el_matador_74
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=apyL9wBWvIk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dqeFVwgWUvA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vMhWEN7IG_U


George L
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yeah its the way people spoke like in the 1930's most of them moved to Long Island, Jennifer Lopez has a modern New York accent influenced by her puerto rican heritage


Native New Yorker
My friend, were I'm from, when we say The Bronx, we say this way "da Bronx". That's a gueine Naw York accent.

Good luck


Wingman
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i was born and raised in new york as well.

Start listening to rap, you will easily be able to see the difference in every areas accent.

like how,
Jay-Z and pappoose sound the same, Lupe and kanye sound the same...ti and luda kinda have the same rhythm.


LexDiamonds
actually the reason why many people you come across talk like on television is because

1) they are actors or other type of media personality

or

2) because they arent from NY in the first place.



Watch shows like Seinfeld, Everyone Loves Raymond, or King of Queens....alot of their actors have New York accents.


The Sopranos is really an old brooklyn accent or a Long Island accent, not a Jersey one.


RedFox
You probably don't have an accent because young people now have access to all kinds of people. You travel,spend time with people from other parts of the country and the accent that was prevalent is no longer the only speech you hear. So you speak in a way that is more universal.I'm from So. Philly,and I don't go around saying Yoo!!!!


~sara~
lol we're from the westcoast and my boyfriend and his friends all talk in a ny accent or at least they try they have good time doing it. maybe it did die a long time ago i dont know i've never been to ny


poker_fan_in_nyc
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The Long Island accent is an aural icon. Americans recognize it, mock it and celebrate it. Some Long Islanders labor to get rid of it. Occasionally, an actor learns to acquire it, not always with great success.

The odd thing about Long Islandese is that it doesn't actually exist -- not as an entity distinct from old-time New York City speech. Dialect recapitulates history, and the sounds of the city's eastward suburbs -- those twanging nasals, the diphthong drawl in "man," the A's of "call," "talk" and "mall" larded with W's -- chronicle the great postwar migration eastward from Flatbush, Bushwick and Williamsburg.

"If you really want to hear a ripe Brooklyn accent, you go to Long Island," says Amy Stoller, a Manhattan-based dialect coach. Listen to a group of Massapequa teenagers, who wouldn't even know from Ebbets Field, and you can hear the echo of their stickball-playing grandparents. If those kids sound nothing like a clique from the next town over, it probably has less to do with geography than with ethnicity.

There are at least four different strands of New York-area accents, broadly defined by tribe: Italian, Jewish, Irish and Hispanic (the latecomer to this dialectal stew). Blacks have adopted features of all these strains, but the strongest form of dialect, formally known as African-American Vernacular English, sounds much the same in New York as it does in Baltimore, Chicago and Los Angeles.



The distinctions hit the ear starkly. Just imagine how offensive to the ear it would be to cast the Malverne-raised actor Tony Danza as a Jew, or to hear Bushwick native Rosie Perez playing an Irish girl. But these idiosyncrasies are difficult to itemize. A few ethnically identifiable sounds stand out.

In the Hispanic version, for example, Stoller detects a "tendency to turn vowels that are followed by nasal consonants [N, M and NG] into nasalized vowels, so 'man' comes out sounding almost like it ends with a French N. They never get around to putting their tongue into the bump behind their teeth, but instead divert the air through their nose."

Dictated by immigration

Most of the identifying characteristics lie in the melodic inflections of speech: cadences that locals recognize but that can't be transcribed. Those intonations also recap the history of immigration. Hang around the largely Jewish village of Great Neck, and you can detect traces of Polish, Russian and German mingling with Yiddish.

Intonations are remarkably specific. "When you think of New York Italian," Stoller says, "you're really talking about largely Sicilian and Neapolitan and cadences, which are nothing like the cadences of Rome or Tuscany or Milan."

Some of the signed headshots papering the walls of the New York Speech Center in Manhattan are those of actors who yearned to scrub the New Yawk from their speech. The inner sanctum is crammed with books piled on the floor, and insets in framed mounts.

In the middle of this evocative clutter sits Sam Chwat, who lives in Great Neck, has a whiff of Brooklyn in his speech, and spends his days trying to make actors sound as though they came from nowhere in particular. Chwat pronounces his name like the phonetic term "schwa"; it seems like a made-up surname for a speech professional, but it's the one he was born with.

The New York/Long Island accent has venerable roots, he explains. In the 1600s, colonists from southern England sowed their phonemes in three principal areas along the East Coast: New England, New York and the South. To this day, in all three zones, R's at the end of words are pronounced as vowels, just as they are in England.

So New York R-dropping is not an English vowel that has been bent by iron-eared immigrants, but a sound that predates the harder R that became widespread after later mass migrations from Scotland and Ireland.

The oldest form of the Long Island accent was spoken by the Bonackers, the East End residents of Accabonac Harbor, whose R-less word endings had more of a New England ring.

It wasn't just aristocrats who bequeathed their linguistic peculiarities on the colonies. New York speech, like that of Cockney London, makes plentiful use of the glottal stop, which turns a T into a silent gulp, transforming "little" into "li'l" and "Milton" into "Mil'n." Cockneys also pronounce TH as F ("I fought I 'eard a clap o' funder"), a quirk that migrated to slave Colonial populations and remains common in African-American Vernacular.

Long Island's stigma

Some speech patterns become stigmatized and others privileged, which leads to the formation of new patterns. Take the famously local pronunciation "Lawn Guyland": Chwat explains that the percussive G linking the words "Long" and "Island" comes from an attempt to sound more refined.

Standard English has no separate G sound at the end of "long" or "thing." NG is merely a written approximation of a nasal consonant whose separate existence we don't recognize. It's produced by pressing the back of the tongue against the back of the palate -- a completely different part of the mouth from the locations where N and G reside.

People who want to avoid déclassé pronunciations such as "goin'" make an incorrect effort to sound correct by tacking on a hard G, rather than using the stealth consonant NG. Thus, the question, "Are we walking, driving or taking a bus?" pops with plosives.

A similar overcompensation applies to R. Upwardly mobile people, vaguely aware of their tendency to consider R an honorary vowel when it comes at the end of a word, will stick a hard R where it doesn't belong at all, so that "law" becomes "lawr" and an "idea" is "idear."

"In New York, more is more," Chwat says drily.

But who can remember everything? Long Islanders who drive to "Warshington" still do so in a "cawh." Even the thickest accents are full of such inconsistencies, and incompletely trained actors tend to apply any rule too broadly. They forget that the New York diphthong -- a single vowel distended into two -- applies only to an A that precedes an M or an N. So while on Long Island, the phrase "Sam can't dance" gets three drawled, nasal A's, an actor might use the same three honks in "Patty's happy she's back," even though no genuine Long Islander would. (And for mysterious reasons, Long Islanders use the diphthong A in "can" and "cancer," but not in "Canada.")

Vocal chameleons

In a region as mobile and diverse as Long Island, an accent is a sometime thing. Linguists speak of code-switching: the practice of adapting one's speech to one's surroundings. Marie K. Huffman, a Stony Brook University linguistics professor, has noticed that her students harden their R's more conscientiously with her than they do with each other.

"Language has so much to do with social identity," she says. "As a teenager, you often have the will to explore linguistic identities and then you decide what kind of adult you're going to be." That explains why some white adolescents infatuated with hip-hop start picking up aspects of African-American Vernacular, then shed them a few years later.

Laurie Simmons, a Manhattan-based artist who grew up in Great Neck, speaks the sort of pure generic American English that Tony Danza dreams of. She remembers altering her speech in high school depending on what group of girls she was trying to join. "I learned the accent because I needed to, for survival. I could turn it off and on at will. My parents didn't talk that way, but I was 'bilingual.'"

Years later, she taught the Long Island patois to her two daughters, who practiced it as an exotic, comical dialect. When the three of them attended a Passover seder in Great Neck last month with Simmons' extended family, the girls, 21 and 15, amused themselves by "doing" the accent all evening. Simmons was mortified, but nobody else noticed: Code-switching is too natural to attract much attention.

If Long Island's version of a New York accent has endured, it's partly because the working Brooklynites who forsook the city and moved into the professional classes saw no reason to change their speech. Chwat discovered as much trying to drum up business among Great Neck doctors and lawyers. "I can't make a living off them," he says. "They like the way they talk."

Asset or Achilles?

Mindy Ferrentino Wolfle, a Long Beach-based marketing and career consultant, says she doesn't counsel clients to change their accents. So long as a local business stays local, an accent isn't a liability, though it does attract attention everywhere else. Accordingly, she trained herself to sound newscast-ready.

"If I sound very Long Island, I don't sound very smart," Ferrentino Wolfle worries. "I know it's insulting to think that, but it's about perception, not about reality." Over the years, she's drilled generic American into her subconscious, and mostly it sticks. "The way I speak now is the same all the time," she insisted.

Then she paused. "I just heard myself say 'awl.' I'm going to have to work on that."


♥Melly♥
Paaaark the caaaaar.

They use long a's


:D



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